user311 wrote: I have seen this thread on the first page of this forum for some time now. I never opened it other than the first time. I am posting now just to say that whoever is given mod rights going forward needs to get those rights as a separate account. I think now we have seen 2 moderators lose their rights because of "player posts". I think that if the development team wants to promote a player to moderator then they need to require this separate account requirement. Everything is about perception. There are a lot a of dim witted people out there and certainly one of them saw Nonce as a moderator and assumed he was on the development team.
Der_Lex wrote: I now understand why Ice didn't want to share that publically. It makes his higher-ups seem like petty tyrants that, instead of using valid criticism to improve their game, try to stamp it out instead. I'm starting to really question their decision and ability to get into social gaming. Sure, they can make a pretty good match 3 game (although the quality of their games has, in my opinion, been on a downward slide since the original Puzzle Quest), but their handling of the social aspects of MPQ has been abysmal. Communication is erratic, their handling if the forums is such a mess that an unofficial forum would probably do a better job than the official forums, player feedback seems to be disregarded or downright disapproved of, and one of the main social features of the game, Alliances, is still ridiculously bare-bones long after its initial implementation. I have some hopes that a fulltime community manager can improve matters, but this whole affair makes me fear that he'll just end up in the sale situation Ice is in now: left to the whims of higher-ups who have no idea how to cultivate ab actual community and loyal fanbase, and spending all of his time making excuses for their mistakes. I realize this is a rather harsh post, but it's not just rough to see a prominent and constructive member of the community get **** like this, but also to see, by reading between the lines, just how little our opinions here seem to matter when we're not being good little sheep that sing the game and the company's praises. Protip, D3: we're much more likely to do so when you actually give us some valid reasons to do so for a change.
Thugpatrol wrote: stephen43084 wrote: While I strongly disagree with how Nonce was treated, I did not have a problem with them choosing who can be a mod, and I do not feel they owe any one an explanation. They don't have to have a forum site. They don't have to allow negative comments concerning their product or company. I am grateful that they have a place where we as players can gather. I'm quite confident that mpq would not be nearly as fun or playable if not for this forum. They don't have to have an official forum, and they don't have to allow negative comments on it. But this is the internet. If this forum didn't exist for people to flock to you can be sure someone would have set up an unofficial forum where most of us would have wound up anyway. And you know what? It would probably be run better by people like Nonce. They don't have to do anything to have an online presence, but this is an online game in an online world. Better to have an official forum where they can try and control things to some degree. It's called public relations, and they're very bad at it. Ice tries, but lately he's been give the unenviable task of taking pretty tinykitty information to the torch and pitchfork wielding mob and trying to smile while doing it. So they're hiring a full time community manager, but as long as that person is given the same tinykitty material and the decisions are made by the same people who don't seem to give a tinykitty about trying to be a decent, respectable, and accountable company, we're going to get the same tinykitty treatment. Do they owe us answers? No. Nobody is owed anything. But we represent a group of customers and potential customers, and we deserve to be treated fairly lest we take our business elsewhere. So when you remove power without so much as a warning from a popular member of the community who was doing thankless work as a volunteer to keep this place running and then hide behind the shield of "we're not going to talk about it", you look very bad.
stephen43084 wrote: While I strongly disagree with how Nonce was treated, I did not have a problem with them choosing who can be a mod, and I do not feel they owe any one an explanation. They don't have to have a forum site. They don't have to allow negative comments concerning their product or company. I am grateful that they have a place where we as players can gather. I'm quite confident that mpq would not be nearly as fun or playable if not for this forum.
Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote: IceIX wrote: I I'm reaching out to locked and johnaaron at the least to see if they can take up some of the slack in general moderation that you will leave.
IceIX wrote: I I'm reaching out to locked and johnaaron at the least to see if they can take up some of the slack in general moderation that you will leave.
Cryptobrancus wrote: Well if it took Nonce using his official status to elevate the complaints of the masses to get things back to 'normal' around here, then I say thank you good sir for poking them hard enough that they couldn't ignore you any longer. Welcome back to being one of the mob, let be buy you a drink.
Clintman wrote: Someone complained and Nonce get canned?
_RiO_ wrote: :: Salutes Nonce :: You shall be missed and surely the forum shall weep over the loss of your efforts within the fortnight.