Lerysh wrote: That's great and all, but levels mean more to lower characters. If Balance of Power taught us anything, its that a 270 Juggernaut is better than basically everyone. a 170 2* is going to be more powerful than a 166 3*. If that's the intent, that's great. If it's not, then... equal level does not mean equal power.
Phantron wrote: Lerysh wrote: That's great and all, but levels mean more to lower characters. If Balance of Power taught us anything, its that a 270 Juggernaut is better than basically everyone. a 170 2* is going to be more powerful than a 166 3*. If that's the intent, that's great. If it's not, then... equal level does not mean equal power. But their levels aren't equal. The 3* goes to 280 while the 2* only goes to 170.
bonfire01 wrote: Upside: Promotes variety (although certain heroes will remain useless even if you buff them to 280 but that is a separate issue) which is something players have asked for (although mostly players who have a lot of heroes they don't get to use, ie lots of forumites) Downside: At the moment, if you happen to lack a usable featured hero then you are somewhat disadvantaged for one event but you get a different hero 1 event later and your non-featured guys are on an even playing field with everyone else's. With the proposals, if you don't have usable versions of the list of buffed heroes then you are at a disadvantage for a whole week AND your non-featured heroes are being disadvantaged AS WELL AS your lack of a usable featured hero. The downside bit seems like it would be the biggest issue for ppl who are attempting to transition to a tier... so if you are moving into 2* territory you might only have 2-3 levelled and covered guys, so if none are on the list (of 2) you've got a week of frustration. If you're transitioning to 3*s (a much longer proposition) then it's very tough to have a large number of usable 3*s, much more likely you are struggling to get just 2 usable ones up and running. If those 2 aren't on the list then along with lacking a featured (which you are used to) you see your other guys suddenly relatively a lot weaker than the next guy (since 3* scaling makes 166-280 a big deal vs unboosted 3*s) and you're stuck like that for a whole week..... It would be good for a roster like mine... I have everyone covered and any 3* who would be remotely menacing scaled to 280 levelled as well... I just feel this might hit players who are already in one of the less relaxing and fun phases of the game. Those guys often don't have enough heroes to attempt anything like roster diversity (and might not be as likely to come to the forum to feed back on how they feel about it). To be clear... I think it is a FANTASTIC aim and I think the "2 heroes that matter" thing has been a big issue worth targetting for some time. Just thinking about this particular plan. EDIT: Oh and you need to fix 4* characters' almost non-existant level based scaling if you're going to boost so many 3*s to be so close to them. I suspect the better 3*s getting boosted to 280 will dump all over most 4*s who are fully boosted if the manner in which both tiers scale is unchanged.
Lerysh wrote: Phantron wrote: Lerysh wrote: That's great and all, but levels mean more to lower characters. If Balance of Power taught us anything, its that a 270 Juggernaut is better than basically everyone. a 170 2* is going to be more powerful than a 166 3*. If that's the intent, that's great. If it's not, then... equal level does not mean equal power. But their levels aren't equal. The 3* goes to 280 while the 2* only goes to 170. Boosted to 100 ~= 94 (1* to 2* level) Boosted to 170 ~= 166 (2* to 3* level) Boosted to 280 ~= 270 (3* to 4* level)
papa07 wrote: Phantron wrote: Lerysh wrote: That's great and all, but levels mean more to lower characters. If Balance of Power taught us anything, its that a 270 Juggernaut is better than basically everyone. a 170 2* is going to be more powerful than a 166 3*. If that's the intent, that's great. If it's not, then... equal level does not mean equal power. But their levels aren't equal. The 3* goes to 280 while the 2* only goes to 170. Not all 3 stars are going to 280, just 5 each week. And if those 5 are say Beast, Doc Ock, Rags, Squirrel Girl, and IM40, then the comparison of the overleveled 2star at 170 to the standard 3star at 166 is even more valid. Lerysh's point is very simple. Characters in this game do not scale past their max level very well. They tend to get massively overpowered. Trying to contradict that fact with a non-related piece of information is a fool's errand.
Phantron wrote: papa07 wrote: Phantron wrote: Lerysh wrote: That's great and all, but levels mean more to lower characters. If Balance of Power taught us anything, its that a 270 Juggernaut is better than basically everyone. a 170 2* is going to be more powerful than a 166 3*. If that's the intent, that's great. If it's not, then... equal level does not mean equal power. But their levels aren't equal. The 3* goes to 280 while the 2* only goes to 170. Not all 3 stars are going to 280, just 5 each week. And if those 5 are say Beast, Doc Ock, Rags, Squirrel Girl, and IM40, then the comparison of the overleveled 2star at 170 to the standard 3star at 166 is even more valid. Lerysh's point is very simple. Characters in this game do not scale past their max level very well. They tend to get massively overpowered. Trying to contradict that fact with a non-related piece of information is a fool's errand. And the 2*s boosted could be Moonstone and Bagman. And even if they're OBW and Ares for that week, so what? It's only one week, and even if the list is picked by random it's got to be very unlikely to pick the best 2*s while simultaneously not picking any of the decent 3*s.