CaptainBatman wrote: I've been running 3/5/5 since she was released. Like you I've found as I've increased my teams roster and strength I've relied on her less. I've started to move her to a 5/5/3 build as the extra damage on a match doesn't matter if she isn't the one making the match. With a 5/5/3 I'm happy to have her safe in the back with stronger characters out front.
Phaserhawk wrote: Where the big problem with 3/5/5 that I am having is that you can come out of the gate matching like crazy, and make a smart cast of aggressive recon and set up your game, but that's it your usually done, because if you keep matching with OBW she's gonna die, her healing can't stop that many hits. This is where I have had the thought of going to 5/4/4 or 5/3/5.
Phaserhawk wrote: But even that I'm not so sure anymore. I have analyzed perhaps where my problem has been coming from and that is I have been running her with Patch and I find that it can be very problematic. Yes you get the strike tiles and that allows her to do tons of damage, but if you want to not take a lot of damage back, you are going to have to clear their purple strike tiles which means putting OBW on the front line taking dmg, and that is not good because it's basically her dead on their next turn.
Phaserhawk wrote: And I think that has been where my problem has been lately, she does not really pair well with Patch as much as you may think. Punisher yes, but Patch not so much. So I'm going to stop running her with Patch and perhaps pair her up with Psylocke, those two might actually get along.
Phaserhawk wrote: What OBW are you running again pasa_ If I remember correctly its 5/3/5 right?
noknuckles wrote: Bullseye - Passive, you're still doing nothing with the purple. Also... you're using Bullseye
noknuckles wrote: I don't have a well covered OBW and I fight them a lot. I'm nearly maxed 2*. She's frail but her squishiness is a little overexaggerated and I feel that a lot of people who claim that they can down her very quickly have L100 rosters.
dreyat wrote: noknuckles wrote: Bullseye - Passive, you're still doing nothing with the purple. Also... you're using Bullseye Bullesye's passive has downed me on several occasions - once he's got 4 protect tiles up it's almost impossible to damage the enemy team. He doesn't do a lot of damage but he's worth having on the team just for the auto protect tiles - particularly if you're using another character that can use the purple in other skills!
Bacon Pants wrote: Turns out I am the only 4-4-5 vote so far. I'm happy with this set up...I don't use OBW too much these days, she fills a niche role now.
noknuckles wrote: A Moonstone buff could be an interesting way of "balancing" OBW. I think having one additional option to counter OBW is enough to off-set her danger level. I don't think she's overpowered, I'd just like more options to neutralize her purple
Mawtful wrote: Gravity Warp probably needs the most work. I've come up with something completely different. Moonstone creates a random gravity warp(places a gravity icon on a tile). When that tile is matched, the gravity warp collapses, destroying the surrounding tiles for additional damage. Increasing ranks would grant a second warp tile to place; linked warps, so that when one is matched all warps collapse, and eventually the ability to target the placement of the warps. I think this makes for an interesting support skill, it provides a little bit of extra damage, and the collapse can be used to pick off pesky countdown or other special tiles that you might not be able to match directly. I would put the "linking" at rank 4 and the targeting at rank 5, since the skill is now very much a support skill with no direct damage itself, I think it needs to become more interesting as you level it up. I would also make this a dreaded "increasing AP cost" skill, starting at 6 AP at rank 1 and gaining +1 AP cost per rank - this would make the rank 5 skill cost 10 AP.
thenoblegamer wrote: Also to weigh in on the OBW situation, I'd agree that she's not the problem but it's the lack of purple 2* alternatives. Last month I hated the guts out of OBW, I'd skip her everytime. Although ever since I used C. Storm / MN Mags against her, I no longer fear her in the PvPs. Even if I'm not using MN Mags I know enough to down her first, deny her a little bit of purple and poof thar she blows. I do lose to her team once in a while, but not enough to cry out for a nerfing bat (plus I've begun to collect her covers, so be cool guys, let me join in the fun first. )